So since Dom 3 is being discussed

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:40 am

Must... Resist... Building... More... Forts...

I do need to lab and temple all the existing ones, though.

cthulhu · Post by **cthulhu** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:48 am

Turn in.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:17 pm

Turn sent.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:56 pm

Turn sent.

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:25 pm

So it turns out that Fire Brands cost both Earth and Fire, and I don't have any Earth income yet. Lame.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:33 pm

Turn sent.

Also, whee, I am in the lead for gem income.

Orca · Post by **Orca** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:01 am

Updated turn 18 file sent

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:46 pm

name_here wrote:Also, whee, I am in the lead for gem income.

Conglaturations. In that case, you might be particularly interested in a development next turn. Speaking of which:

Turn 19:
http://www.mediafire.com/?vh2tqe426se7dws

Sorry it took longer than usual to upload, I had a paper to write and turn in, and I only managed to get to Lavabit around half an hour ago.

EDIT: actually, given how recently turns have been submitted, it looks like I wasn't late at all. I think I just barely caught Man's revised turn.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:40 pm

I don't have any D2 starspawn? Seriously, game?

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:43 pm

Slightly better than 1/16 chance? Bah, I've had games where I couldn't even get the 1/4 random I needed. Besides D1 will work for bootstrapping death if you have a RoS.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:45 pm

That would require me rushing construction 6. I have some Evocation to research at the moment.

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:51 pm

name_here wrote:That would require me rushing construction 6. I have some Evocation to research at the moment.

Then why, oh why, do you need D2? If you aren't pushing for conjuration or enchantment D does precious little for you. (Or construction, but still.)
My point really is that hopefully, by the time you need death at high levels, you will have construction 6 and the difference between D1 and D2 will be one item that you will want anyway.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:54 pm

For a different cunning plan. Also, skull mentors. Mostly the mentors, since I need construction 6 anyhow for the other plan unless I feel like empowering, which I don't.

Hurry up with the hammer, Avor.

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:05 pm

name_here wrote:For a different cunning plan. Also, skull mentors. Mostly the mentors, since I need construction 6 anyhow for the other plan unless I feel like empowering, which I don't.

Hurry up with the hammer, Avor.

Trade for a skull staff, you will get better milage out of using hammers on clams anyway. (Saving 4 water and 2 nature is like getting 3 clams for the price of two, which is cooler for an astral power than saving 3 death gems which are harder to put to good use anyway)

Bottom line for me, if I had so much D that I was contemplating mentor spam, I likely wouldn't need to use a hammer to make that a reality.

angelfromanotherpin · Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:38 am

Turn sent.

Blasted · Post by **Blasted** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:15 am

The conversations around this game make is sound so interesting.

And then I see a screenshot and vomit a little into my mouth.

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:28 am

Blasted wrote:The conversations around this game make is sound so interesting.

And then I see a screenshot and vomit a little into my mouth.

I don't know, since two guys made it as a niche title, I think I prefer the sprites to whatever shitty looking 3D modeling they could scrape together. I would love it if someone made a game like this with an actual budget, because then we could have a world map and interface that was clearer.

And more than two sprites for each unit.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:32 am

Akula wrote:
Blasted wrote:The conversations around this game make is sound so interesting.

And then I see a screenshot and vomit a little into my mouth.
I don't know, since two guys made it as a niche title, I think I prefer the sprites to whatever shitty looking 3D modeling they could scrape together. I would love it if someone made a game like this with an actual budget, because then we could have a world map and interface that was clearer.

And more than two sprites for each unit.

I don't really care about the sprites that much. My main beef is the sheer amount of bullshit to wade through to figure enough out to be mildly competent. I mean, I can't play with you guys, but even if I could, I'm not sure I want to, because damn, I would get steamrolled in seconds since by turn 10 even the faction that was abandoned for two turns is better off than I would be.

K · Post by K » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:38 am

In on 19.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:40 am

We're approaching a point of crisis where I may try something not in that previously linked LP. We'll see.

Also, turn sent.

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:40 am

Kaelik wrote:I don't really care about the sprites that much. My main beef is the sheer amount of bullshit to wade through to figure enough out to be mildly competent. I mean, I can't play with you guys, but even if I could, I'm not sure I want to, because damn, I would get steamrolled in seconds since by turn 10 even the faction that was abandoned for two turns is better off than I would be.

Oh yeah, the learning curve is the worst part of the game for sure. You can get around it, to an extent, by doing reading and shit. But fuck that, my game isn't my job and I don't want to have to memorize spreadsheets to play competently.

But I really think that the game engine makes shit worse. Try giving coherent orders to your fucking commanders when you have 20 in a province. It is utter bullshit, because you can totally lose track of some of them if they are stuck between other guys.

Oh, and there are hidden hotkeys that the manual doesn't fucking tell you about...Which is stupid. For instance, do you know you can sort the spells you what a commander to cast by the main school? You can! All you have to do is press the first letter of the school (or s in the case of astral) and you can save a lot of scrolling or hunting this way. But, it isn't even in the manual.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:43 am

...

I hate the manual writers so much.

So is there a hidden shortcut to save hunting for paths on dudes or do I just have to man up and do the naming thing?

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:45 am

name_here wrote:So is there a hidden shortcut to save hunting for paths on dudes or do I just have to man up and do the naming thing?

HA HA HA, fuck no. Rename them shits. Though there might be, but I have never seen it mentioned.

cthulhu · Post by **cthulhu** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:22 am

Kaelik wrote:
Akula wrote:
Blasted wrote:The conversations around this game make is sound so interesting.

And then I see a screenshot and vomit a little into my mouth.
I don't know, since two guys made it as a niche title, I think I prefer the sprites to whatever shitty looking 3D modeling they could scrape together. I would love it if someone made a game like this with an actual budget, because then we could have a world map and interface that was clearer.

And more than two sprites for each unit.
I don't really care about the sprites that much. My main beef is the sheer amount of bullshit to wade through to figure enough out to be mildly competent. I mean, I can't play with you guys, but even if I could, I'm not sure I want to, because damn, I would get steamrolled in seconds since by turn 10 even the faction that was abandoned for two turns is better off than I would be.

I think the learning curve is severely overrated. Getting to the top end understanding of complex races is really hard, but there are a couple of groups of races:

A) Bad ones

B) One trick ponies with a competent trick, like Abysia

C) really ass fuckingly complicated races like T'ien Chi

Playing Class B races like Abysia to a rudimentary level isn't very complicated (Mass fire mages, Mass infantry that is immune to fire, blast bad dues with firey shit while massed infantry mops up whatever is left).

Ashdod is even less complicated.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:23 am

Turn sent